AD: Tell us a bit about your background
MM: I grew up in working-class Detroit in a working-class family. I hold
a Ph.D. in English from Wayne State University, specializing in early modern
literature, especially religious literature. I have worked as a musician,
bookseller, garden designer, Waldorf teacher (hence my interest in Rudolf
Steiner), and for the last fourteen years as a scholar and professor. I am also
a poet. I am married, a Byzantine Catholic, and I have nine children. My wife,
Bonnie, and I run a small organic farm close to Ann Arbor.
AD: What led to the writing
of this book?
MM: I’ve been interested in sophiology since hearing about it
twenty-five years ago when I first encountered the writing of Solovyov. While
working on my dissertation (since published as Literature and the Encounter With God in Post-Reformation England) and writing chapters on Jane Lead and Henry and Thomas Vaughan, I realized what
an important figure Jacob Boehme was to 17th century English
religion and literature—especially his introduction of Sophia to religious
awareness—and thought “somebody should write a book on that.” That “somebody”
turned out to be me. Originally, I planned on sticking to seventeenth-century England—there is more work to be done on the topic with Thomas Traherne
and the Cambridge Platonists, for instance—but John Riess of Angelico Press, who
was then preparing my poetry collection, Meditations in Times of Wonder for publication, approached me about doing a book and I
decided to do a book on sophiology more broadly conceived and from the 17th
century to the present. It was a fun book to write.
AD: For nearly the last
century, anything with the word "sophiology" in the title has tended
to make Eastern (esp. Russian) Christians nervous thanks to the controversy
around Bulgakov—a fact several of your reviewers note by variously calling your book
"brave," "daring" and "controversial."
Did you feel you were beginning under a shadow as it were—like someone presumed
guilty until proven innocent? Or are we far enough away now from controversy
that sophiology today no longer rings alarms for people (those who, rightly,
you say indulge in the "inherently ugly" business of heresy hunting)?
I didn’t feel I had anything to lose, but I did expect to be greeted
with a hostile reception. My pastor, a wise and scholarly man, was the only
person to look at any of the book before it came out—I showed him the first
chapter and the chapter on the Russians. He thought much of them, but said, “Michael,
my son, you’re going to make some people mad.” Looking at the history of
sophiology, I’d say that goes with the territory. I don’t know if we’re far from the controversy or not. My guess is that we aren’t. I’ve had a few scholars already question my investigation of this “heresy” (their words). I really don’t care. I really did feel called to write this book, so I trust in God and pray that good may come of it.
AD: What is it, in brief,
about sophiology that it seems to have been such a magnet for misunderstanding
and controversy?
Two things, I think. One: some people don’t like to think of Sophia
as a divine person (the “fourth hypostasis” anxiety). Two: the issue of gender.
Now, despite what John Milbank has suggested, I am no feminist theologian. But
I really don’t understand why some theologians get so freaked out when someone
suggests that we take the feminine Wisdom figure of Proverbs and the other
Wisdom books as feminine and not as code for “Logos.” Last night I was reading Augustine: On the Trinity—the Father as lover, the Son as beloved, and the
Spirit as the love between them. That may be a nice way to put it, but Sophia
is missing from the picture and would give it a more accurate, gendered
typology with real applications in our current cultural situation—and I am NOT
saying we need to add Sophia to the Trinity, just that we need to think about
gender (and how God works) differently when it comes to theology. Now, don’t
get me wrong, I love Augustine—we even named one of our children after him—but
classical culture was all about the dudes. As I argue in my book’s conclusion,
despite/due to feminism, gender difference has been rendered almost
inconsequential and even changeable. How’s that for heresy? A sophiological
approach could restore some balance and common sense to some aspects of
theology, not to mention philosophy and culture.
AD: Give us your brief
sketch of how you understand sophiology and why it is so important.
I understand sophiology as a poetic intuition, primarily, as a way
of perceiving. In this, it has much in common with phenomenology, for both are
grounded in contemplation. For one, contemplation is one way in which
Sophia—the Wisdom of God—is disclosed, is seen as shining through the
phenomenal world (von Balthasar’s notion of “splendor” is a great help in this
regard). This can happen through the natural world, through the arts, through
liturgy, through another person.
Sophiology is important because it offers a way to bring reverence
to scientific modes of inquiry and return beauty to the lexicons of both art
and theology. Sophiology asks us to be attentive to the possibility of God’s presence
in the phenomenal world, in history, in the human person, and in the cosmos.
AD: Your first chapter draws
on a vast and very impressive array of people ancient and modern, Eastern and
Western, philosophical and theological. But what I truly did not expect to find
was a disquisition on genetically modified organisms! Tell us how you see the
links in Western theological developments, Eastern ressourcement, and GMOs.
Well…rationality is not always a good thing, for one. I trace the problem
from the nominalist/realist debates of the Middle Ages to natura pura with early modern Neo-Scholasticism to scientific
materialism to our current, postmodern nominalist cultural milieu.
Sophiology—at least since Boehme—has been pushing against this trend.
My interest in the GMO issue is connected to my understanding of
farming. But the GMO issue, as well as transhumanism and the postmodern
dismissal of gender as a reality, all lead back to nominalism. For a postmodern
nominalist, GMO corn, for instance, maybe not genetically be corn. The
postmodern nominalist attitude is, basically, “So what? ‘Corn’ is just a name.”
Same with the human person: “gender is culturally determined.” There is
something, and I don’t mean this metaphorically, inherently demonic about such
language. Sophiology pushes against this extreme violence and, like
phenomenology and ressourcement,
returns “to the things themselves” in order to reset our notions of the real
against what is clearly a disordered state of affairs.
AD: Your fourth chapter treats
the "noble failure of romanticism." What was noble about it, and why
was it a failure?
What was noble about it was that the Romantics at least tried to
come to what I would call a religious intuition in their rejection of the
Enlightenment. It failed because it wasn’t grounded in the historical Church
and tried to realize that essentially religious intuition on its own. I greatly
admire their attempt to find the good at the center of the world. But you can’t
find it without Jesus. This is why, for me, of all the Romantics, Novalis comes
closest. He sensed, even more than Goethe, the importance of the Church to this
seeking. Had he lived (he died—on the feast of the Annunciation,
incidentally—before he turned thirty), he may have made it a reality.
AD: In that chapter, Goethe
features prominently. What role do you see for him in sophiology?
For me, Goethe’s great contribution is in introducing the concept of
“reverence” into scientific inquiry. His phenomenology is itself a kind of
sophiology, attentive to presence, beauty, and “things as they are.” He was suspicious
of ideology, especially scientific ideology, and such an attitude is truly
helpful for beholding and comprehending that which is before one. And the end Faust, part 2—when the Mater Gloriosa
rescues Faust from damnation—is some of the most beautiful sophiology/Mariology
I’ve read.
AD: Your conclusion notes
that a "complete sophiology has yet to be realized" in part because
of attempts to turn it into theology or doctrine. If it is not those latter two
things, or part of them, what is it? How would you characterize it? What is its
"genre" if you will?
I think it could be part of them, but I wonder if academic theology
would be welcome to such an idea. I doubt it, frankly. Academia, in my
experience, is a pretty politically-charged work environment generally hostile
to new ideas.
What I am envisioning for a “complete sophiology” is probably far
too idealistic, but here goes: I think it would include a complete teardown of
our current secularist worldview—a worldview that, as you know, almost totally
permeates Catholic higher education. The kind of sophiology I envision is one
that integrates science, art, and religion. I think this idea is beautifully
manifested in Henry Vaughan’s poetry wherein God, the natural world, and poetry
are united in a fully integrated whole. So, maybe it is best to say that such
an idea probably couldn’t be realized in the academy. But it could happen in
the context of a community (or communities).
Sophiology’s genre, as I argue in the book, is poetic. But I am thinking of “poetic” here as a way of perceiving, not necessarily as a form of writing. For me, like liturgy, a farm or a scientific discovery can be every bit as poetic as a poem. I follow Heidegger in that way: “All reflective thinking is poetic, and all poetry in turn is a kind of thinking.”
Sophiology’s genre, as I argue in the book, is poetic. But I am thinking of “poetic” here as a way of perceiving, not necessarily as a form of writing. For me, like liturgy, a farm or a scientific discovery can be every bit as poetic as a poem. I follow Heidegger in that way: “All reflective thinking is poetic, and all poetry in turn is a kind of thinking.”
AD: Sum up your hopes for
this book, and who should read it.
I hope the book can help reset the conversation about sophiology,
for one. For another, I hope it can offer people a way to rethink our
relationship to the created world and culture, the Church and the cosmos. I
also hope it can encourage some people to interrogate the
Enlightenment/scientific materialist assumptions about knowledge of the world
that our culture has interiorized to such an alarming (if, for the most part,
unconscious) degree.
Though I am an academic, I didn’t write the book only for my peers.
I wrote it for people interested in religious ideas, in ideas about what is
most important in human life. In a way, I think I had my eldest son and people
of his age in mind when I wrote the book. He’s twenty-five and I know how
people at that time of life are trying to find meaning in the world and are
often turned off (or away) from the religious discourses or communities
available to them. Beauty has a way of speaking to them directly and drawing
them more effectively to the Church than hours and hours of (often) sterile
apologetics. Sophiology, if nothing else, is engaged with beauty.
AD: Having finished this
book, what projects are you at work on now?
First, I
have been trying to finish an article on the Catholic specters in the poetry of
Robert Herrick and Nicholas Ferrar’s community at Little Gidding. I am also
preparing a sophiology casebook which will consist of about 120 pages of
primary source material (Boehme, Jane Lead, Goethe, Solovyov, Bulgakov, and so
forth), 75 pages of poetry (Blok, Novalis, Hopkins, Merton, etc.), and 7 or 8
critical essays. This summer, I hope to work on some new poetry and then get to
a book on poetics. I also have a garden to plant, some goats to milk, and a few
beehives to shepherd.
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