A new and welcome book, very cogently written, to which I previously drew brief attention, continues to help us understand the relationship between Orthodox Christians and Muslims: Andrew M. Sharp, Orthodox Christians and Islam in the Postmodern Age (Brill, 2012).
AD:
Tell us a bit about your background.
AS: First, let me thank you for this interview
and for the opportunity to talk about my book.
I think readers will discover in it some thought-provoking and even
surprising things about Muslim-Christian relations, a topic of particular
importance today. My interest in
religion and spirituality began at a young age.
I was raised in a Christian family and, because of extensive travel as a
youth and young adult, had a genuine curiosity about the way faith and culture
together express so brilliantly the divine spark within every human being. My college years were a transformative
intellectual and spiritual journey, which culminated during the year I spent as
a student in Paris. It was in France
where I had my first substantive encounter with both Orthodox Christianity and
Islam. Through spending time with Muslim
friends I met at the Sorbonne and the international student campus where I was
living, I was inspired to learn more about Islam, while at the same time – through
other friendships, encounters with monastic communities, and voracious reading –
I realized my own personal journey toward a deeper connection with God had led
me to Orthodoxy. I was so drawn to the
spiritual treasures of the Orthodox tradition – especially the Jesus Prayer –
and its liturgy, icons, theology, and history that after my conversion and
marriage, my wife and I moved to New York where I enrolled at St. Vladimir’s
Seminary.
I continued to have a great
interest in Islam, as well as the historical relationship between that religion
and Eastern Christianity, and under the direction of the late John Boojamra did
my Master’s thesis on early theological encounters between Orthodox Christians
and Muslims. After seminary, I enrolled
in a graduate program at the University of Virginia where I specialized
primarily in Islamic studies and later at the University of Birmingham (in
England) where I wrote my PhD dissertation on Orthodox Christian-Muslim
relations under the supervision of David Thomas.
I was a visiting instructor for a year at the
College of William and Mary and for the past several years have been at
Virginia Commonwealth University, where I have taught courses on
Muslim-Christian relations, the Bible, Islam, and world religions. In all my classes I try to stress the
importance of religion and community in the formation of identity, particularly
in an age where so many of us feel disconnected from others persons, nature and the environment,
the spiritual/transcendent powers in the world and all of us, and even
ourselves.
AD:
What led you to work on this book, Orthodox Christians and Islam in the Postmodern Age, in particular?
AS: In my studies of both
Eastern Christianity and Islam I was struck by the ways in which Muslims and
Eastern Christians have had a long, rich, and complex relationship with each
other over the centuries, often living as neighbors and, more often than not
historically, in relative harmony and peace.
So much of this story has not been told and/or has been forgotten by
more recent generations, which have unfortunately seen the history through the
lens of the modern worldview, with all its prejudices and distortions. Though I was able to find a few articles
from Orthodox writers about Islam and interfaith dialogue, there was really no
comprehensive treatment on the subject.
Therefore, I set out to write a book that would bring together the
various discussions over the past few decades about engagement with Muslims and
their religion, and then contextualize and analyze this material in order to
establish, as much as possible, an Orthodox ‘position’ on Islam. In doing so, what emerged included the
great similarities in the way Orthodox Christians and Muslims have experienced
and responded to modernity and modernization.
I discovered through my research that the modern and postmodern periods
have in many ways posed a crisis for these communities, in the sense that they
have had to reevaluate everything upon which their religious traditions have
operated for centuries.
Just as I shared
with you my own personal quest for identity, I believe it is also helpful to
think of religious communities as having to come to terms with their identity
in this present world in which we live.
It is a timeless spiritual truism that those who really know themselves
– who they are, where they came from, their strengths and weaknesses, what they
aspire to, the things they love – are happy and at peace and, by contrast, those whose identity is all mixed up – they
pretend to be something they’re not, they forget where they came from, they are
in denial about their weaknesses, they numb their pain instead of facing it
head on, they are fragmented, they refuse to be loved or even to love
themselves – are unhappy and live tormented inner lives. Through my research and personal experience
with Orthodox Christians and Muslims, I have found that entire communities have
been effected by the consequences of either a healthy or unhealthy concept of
their identity in this world, their relationship to God, and their relationship
with their fellow man. I felt that as an
Orthodox Christian who has had training in Eastern Christianity, Islamic studies, and Muslim-Christian relations, I could help reframe some of the discussion
on Islam and our relationship to it as a parallel religious community that is
struggling as we are to come to terms with its own place, self-understanding,
and mission in the postmodern world.
AD: Why
did you focus, as you say in your introduction, on the years 1975-2008? Did you
feel earlier history had already been well told?
AS: Muslim-Christian studies is
still a relatively young and growing field, so there is much room for new
scholarship in all periods, especially in terms of relations between Orthodox
Christians and Muslims. In this book, I
wanted to tell the story of how we got to where we are in this postmodern age,
which has more to do with certain changes in attitudes – following World War II
and especially over the past few decades – toward the underlying philosophies
of modernity than the long history of relations between Orthodox Christians and
Muslims from the rise of Islam to the present.
In the introduction I reference the patristic, ecclesiological, and
liturgical revival within the Orthodox Church over the past half-century, inspired
by figures such as Afanassieff,
Bulgakov, Florovsky, Lossky, Schmemann, Staniloae, and Zizioulas.
From approximately 1975, one can begin to see
within this larger shift in thought a trend to re-articulate the Orthodox
theological tradition specifically as it relates to Islam and Muslim-Christian
relations in today’s world. Again, as I
said in the introduction to the book, this renewal of Orthodox Christian-Muslim
relations continues to the present, but the date on which I chose to focus on
the other end of the range corresponded with the convening of a synaxis of the
Orthodox patriarchs from around the world in the autumn of 2008. This event was important in that, among other
things, it reaffirmed the commitment of Orthodox leaders to interfaith dialogue
and action.
There have been some
interesting developments since 2008 and I anticipate that at some future point
I will pick up the story from 2008 forward in another article or monograph
about Orthodox Christian-Muslim relations.
Even though the primary sources for the work fall between the years
1975-2008, in order to truly understand the significance of theses writings,
statements, and dialogues the book had to present a much broader picture. For example, the first chapter gives a
complete historical account of key events and developments from the fall of
Constantinople in the mid-fifteenth century through the twentieth century. Another chapter of the book examines the
scriptural foundation and patristic sources that establish an Orthodox
theological perspective on other religions and how they relate to the mission
and place of the Church in the world.
There are also references to other statements, speeches, and writings
prior to 1975 and in the years between 2008 and the present. In short, the book really is about Orthodox
Christians and Islam in the postmodern age,
as the title implies, and is much more than just a study of the years
1975-2008.
AD:
What, in your expert judgment, are some outstanding works narrating that
earlier history of encounters between Orthodox and Muslims? Which works are to
be avoided?
AS: There
have been many excellent studies on early encounters between Christians and
Muslims (and/or Christianity and Islam), including several titles published along
with this book in the series by Brill, The History of Christian-Muslim Relations, Texts and Studies. Perhaps the most ambitious project to date
to record the key figures in the encounters between Muslims and Christians over
the centuries is Christian-Muslim
Relations: A Bibliographical History, edited by David Thomas and Alex
Mallett. The fourth volume has just been
published and they have already begun work on the next one.
Hugh Goddard’s A History of Christian-Muslim Relations(Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 2000)
is still one of the best overviews and attempts to present the history of the
period from both Muslim and Christian (including the Orthodox Christian) perspectives.
Daniel Sahas has also written some
important books and articles, including John of Damascus on Islam: The ‘Heresy of
the Ishmaelites’ (Leiden: Brill, 1972) and ‘Gregory Palamas (1296–1360) on Islam,’ The
Muslim World 73 (1982): 1–21. John
Meyendorfff’s article, ‘Byzantine Views of Islam,’ Dumbarton
Oaks Papers 18 (1964): 113–132, remains an excellent concise summary of
relations between early Greek Orthodox Christians and Muslims. Key reference works on Byzantine writers and
texts on Islam have been compiled by Adel Theodore Khouri in Les
théologians byzantins et
l’islam: Textes et auteurs VIIIe–Xiiie s. (Louvain: Editions Nauwelaerts,
1969). Other works, such as Margaret
Smith’s The Way of the Mystics: The Early Christian Mystics and the Rise of the Sufis (London:
Sheldon Press, 1976), have attempted to explore the relationship between
Eastern Christian and early Islamic mysticism.
Finally, with regard to the
early history of Arab Christian-Muslim relations, Sidney Griffith has carried
out some of the best scholarship, including a recent article, ‘Arabic Christian
Relations with Islam: Retrieving from History, Expanding the Canon’ in The Catholic Church in the Contemporary Middle East: Studies for the Synod for the Middle East: Studies for The Synod for the Middle East, Anthony
O’Mahony and John Flannery, eds. (London: Melisende, 2010), 263–290.
In terms of works to avoid, I mention in my
book the writings of Bat Ye’or and Serge Trifkovic. Their books, along with others of this genreof writing, attempt to construct an imaginative account of Islam’s treatment of
Eastern Christians that matches the authors’ negative views toward Islam, which
they make little effort to suspend or even disguise. Their methodology is often flawed and the
arguments themselves tend to be either overly simplistic or internally
contradictory. These books exclude
pertinent sources and the analysis does not properly contextualize the sources
that are consulted, which reveal the author’s anti-Muslim bias and inability to
understand the past without viewing it through a modern lens.
AD: You
note that from 1975 onward "one can begin to detect the effort to
re-articulate the Orthodox theological tradition specifically as it relates to
Islam." What was it about 1975, or perhaps that decade more generally,
that prompted such a re-articulation? Were there any particular causal factors
your discovered?
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AS: It was only a matter of time until the
Orthodox theological revival, as seen in the works of the Russian émigrés in
Paris in the 40’s (and later in New York) and that of Greek theologians from
the 50s (ex. Romanides, then later Yannaras and Zizioulas), would begin to spill
over into the area of interreligious dialogue, and specifically
Muslim-Christian relations. Indeed, as
you said, Orthodox theologians began to look at this subject even before
1975. For example, Metropolitan Georges
(Khodr) wrote his ground breaking articles – ‘Pour un dialogue avec l’Islam’
and ‘Christianity in a Pluralistic World: The Economy of the Holy Spirit’ – in
the years 1969 and 1971 respectively. Subsequently,
he and others helped the World Council of Churches articulate its position on
interfaith relations. I used the
approximate date of 1975 because much like the terrorist attacks of 9/11 led to
an increased interest in Islam and Muslim-Christian relations in the years
following 2001, I believe there is evidence that the Turkish invasion of Cyprus
in 1974 and the start of the civil war in Lebanon in 1975 led to a similarly
heightened interest in Islam and relations with Muslims among Orthodox Christians
from the mid-1970s forward. It is often
during such times of trial and inter-communal discord that religious leaders
are the voice of reason and avail themselves of opportunities for positive
inter-religious dialogue.
AD: You
refer briefly (p.75) to the "shared mystical dimension of Eastern
Christianity and Islam." Say more about that if you would. What elements
are common or shared? And are there incommensurate elements as well?
Likewise, there was an exchange between Muslims and the Orthodox
Christian mystic Gregory Palamas in which the parties had a fruitful discussion
on many topics and concluded that a time would come when there would be mutual
understanding between followers of Islam and Eastern Christianity.
Even in modern times, particularly in parts
of the world where Orthodox Christians and Muslims have lived side-by-side for
centuries, one can still detect the influence of the mystics. For example, the late Patriarch Athenagoras
spoke of a dervish who spent hours visiting his home as a child and that he was
so respected by his family that they could talk to him about anything, even
matters of the heart that they had not even uttered to their parish
priest. There are so many things that
Sufism and Eastern Christian mysticism (particularly hesychasm) share in common.
The most obvious similarity is the use of monological prayer, such as
the Jesus Prayer in the Orthodox tradition and the practice of dhikr in Sufism, with the intent of achieving
intimacy with God. One also finds
similar use of breathing and meditative techniques, transmission of spiritual
practices from a master to a disciple, an emphasis on the heart as the locus of
the spirit, and the experience of ‘Divine light’ as one nears ever closer to
God.
In terms of differences between the
two, certainly hesychasm is fleshed out in a Trinitarian framework whereas
Sufism emphasizes the ‘unity’ of God (tawhid). Also, because of the role of Sufi orders over
the centuries, one could argue that when compared to the hesychast tradition,
which is most pronounced in monasteries, Islamic mysticism has a greater appeal
in society at large. Still, because of
Eastern Christianity’s mystical quality overall, Orthodox Christian and Muslim leaders
and scholars have begun to think about the esoteric dimension of their
traditions as a possible bridge between the two religions. In fact, three conferences have focused, at
least in part, on the role of mysticism in Orthodox Christians-Muslim relations
(Boston [1985], South Carolina [2001], and Volos, Greece [2006]). I hope to publish on this as well in the near
future. Still, the effort needs to go
much further and should involve practitioners as well as scholars. At one of those conferences, it was reported
that in the middle of the twentieth century Louis Massignon, the great Catholic
scholar of Islamic mysticism and Muslim-Christian relations, said, “It is too
late for conferences; the only thing that matters now is the prayer of the
heart.” I could not agree with him more,
but would add that Eastern Christians should play a leading role in making this
vision a reality.
AD: You
note in several places (e.g., p.93, quoting the Ecumenical Patriarch) the
problems with nationalism, which is something of a commonplace in Eastern
Christian self-criticism. And yet I know some Eastern Christians, especially in
the Arab world, who have been able to make common cause with Muslims precisely
through pan-Arabic nationalism and nationalist organizations, and such
co-operation has helped to keep tensions between the two under control. Is
nationalism thus something of a proverbial double-edged sword?
AS: Certainly Orthodox
Christians have benefitted from nationalism in some ways since the notion of
the modern nation-state began to spread from Western Europe to the East during
the Enlightenment. In fact, many of them
initially viewed this in very positives terms, seeing it as an opportunity to
fulfill their cultural, political, and religious aspirations more completely
than had been possible under Ottoman rule.
This was true of Arab Christians as well except, unlike most other
Orthodox peoples in the region, they did not separate out the religious
component as a marker of their national identity, choosing instead to emphasize
alongside their Muslim compatriots the heritage of their shared Islamicate
Civilization as the primary basis (along with the Arabic language) for modern
Arab nationalism. I give several
examples in my book of Orthodox Christians who were key leaders in the movement
toward Arab Nationalism, such as Antun Sa’adeh, Constantine Zurayk, and Michael
Aflak.
Over time, those in many Orthodox
societies also began to experience the darker side of nationalism, along with
the other principles and programs of modernity that did not deliver as promised a more civilized and humane world. Orthodox scholars and leaders started
speaking about the ways in which nationalism was degrading relations between
national churches and hurting the Orthodox Church worldwide on many
levels. Since that time nationalism has
indeed been a persistent theme in Eastern Christian self-criticism. Though I briefly summarized some of the key concerns
with nationalism, what I really wanted to do in my book was bring to light the
ways in which more and more Orthodox scholars and leaders have begun to think
about its ramifications for intra-Christian and interfaith relations,
especially those with Muslims. I think
many people are not aware that in a number of ways Muslims have had very
similar experiences to their Eastern Christian brothers and sisters with modernity
and in their responses to it. This is
changing, though, especially in places such as Lebanon, Turkey, and Albania
through the leadership of Tarek Mitri, Metropolitan George (Khodr), Patriarch
Bartholomew, and Archbishop Anastasios (Yannoulatos), among others. For quite some time, they have been working
alongside Muslims to create new models for human engagement that go beyond
borders, languages, religion, and interests of the state and global
corporations. In Lebanon, for example,
Christians and Muslims are recovering the best of their shared past, emphasizing
religious pluralism and their long-standing cultural bonds as the basis for a
new, postmodern nationalism. Ecumenical
Patriarch Bartholomew has also been outspoken about the role Muslims and
Eastern Christians can play together in bringing about a new paradigm for nationalism
that will “overcome modernity from the inside,” placing emphasis on both the
“rights of God and the rights of man.”
The great scholar of religion, Huston Smith once said that whereas
Christianity teaches us to love thy neighbor, Islam teaches us how to love him. Orthodox Christians are learning from Muslims
and are discovering that by closely working with them they can reverse some of the
negative consequences of nationalism and forge new paradigms for themselves and
the world.
AD: You
speak of the resurgence in some places of the "growing sentiment of
anti-ecumenism" (p.98) and the notion of the "pan-heresy of
ecumenism." I've seen and dealt with this myself. Do you think it is
growing? How much of it may be a factor of the recent influx of converts to Orthodoxy, especially from more "liberal" Protestant denominations?
AS: These trends correspond to
a way of thinking that is unfortunately on the rise in virtually all of the
world’s religious traditions. Often
called ‘fundamentalism’ – a term that is widely used but imprecise and/or
misleading – this resurgent version of religiosity is a reaction to modernity and,
despite what its proponents believe, is more often than not a de facto departure from the traditional
religious sources and practices.
Unfortunately, this fundamentalist trend, which ironically is informed
by the underlying principles of modernity, has made inroads in Orthodoxy over
the past few decades. Though this has
not been adequately studied, anecdotal evidence from Orthodox scholars and
leaders seems to indicate it is on the rise in recent years. One of the ways it is expressed is through
the sentiment of anti-ecumenism coming from certain groups and individuals in
the Church. At the same time, however, one
can also detect growing support within world Orthodoxy (among scholars, clergy,
and lay persons) for dialogue and common work with Christians of other
traditions and those of other religions.
Within the North American context, it is possible that converts from
both the more “liberal” Protestant denominations and the more “conservative”
wing of the Evangelical movement (and more recently among some Catholics) have
contributed to the increasingly polarized viewpoints in the churches on any
number of issues. However, I do not
think this can explain the phenomenon of ‘fundamentalism’ (along with those who
strongly speak out against it) that has taken root in some Orthodox majority
countries, such as Russia and Greece.
To
illustrate this trend in general terms, I devoted a section in chapter five of my
book to ‘Greece: A Case Study in Opposing Voices in the Church.’ There I
discuss the open attitudes expressed by those associated with the Volos Academy
for Theological Studies in contrast to the more ‘fundamentalist’ orientation
(which includes what they refer to as the “pan-heresy of ecumenism”)
represented by those who organized a conference in Thessaloniki in 2004 on
“Ecumenism: Origins-Expectations-Disenchantment.” These very different orientations and
understanding of Orthodox thought and practice in the postmodern age come to
bear on attitudes toward Islam and Orthodox Christian-Muslim relations
today. This is why I felt it so
important to address in my book.
AD: You
mention (p.115) the inability of Christians and Muslims in some places "to
come up with a shared religious basis for human rights." I've heard some
scholars and theologians argue that such a religious understanding of rights is
impossible, theologically, for Islam because its notion of God, and its theological
anthropology, do not allow for any idea of rights--that such notions could only
arise in a Christian context. What are
your thoughts?
AS: I find such claims by
Christians about Islam, though one hears them more frequently from social
scientists and politicians than theologians, to reveal not only their lack of
understanding about the religion but also their unwillingness to take a close
look at their own civilization’s record on human rights. Nearly all Muslim majority countries have
signed the International Declaration of Human Rights and those who have
criticized certain aspects of it and/or not signed it do so because, in the
words of Aziz Sachedina (one of the best authorities in the West on Islam and
human rights), they find some of the language “prejudicially anti-religious and
politically hegemonic.” We should
remember that this document was written during the colonial period and consider
the possibility that, at least to those who suffered under European hegemony,
some of the language could reflect the prejudices and injustice of that
age. Despite these and other concerns,
even the most conservative and anti-Western Muslim scholars would support the
view that human beings have basic rights and should be treated with dignity,
because, as the Qur’an says, every human person carries with them the breath of
God.
For Muslims it is important not
only to emphasize the civil and political rights of individuals, but also the
rights of the human community. Muslims
scholars and others are justified, in my view, when they point out the
hypocrisy of the United States, which to this day has still not ratified the
Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights because of the political ramifications
of acknowledging humans have a right to education, food, equal pay for equal
work, and health care. The vast majority
of Muslim countries have signed and ratified the covenant and those who have
objected to it do so for the same reason they object to the Declaration of
Human Rights, not because they
believe Islam does not afford such rights to human beings. Based
on my research and training on Islam, I agree with Sachedina’s conclusion that
Islam’s ethical, legal, and theological traditions are compatible with the
essentially secular construct of human rights, as it is expressed in the
Declaration. I think both Christian and
Islamic theology support, even more thoroughly than secular liberalism, the
rights of the human beings and our responsibilities to each other within the
global human community. The fact that
there are high levels of human rights abuses in some Muslim majority countries
today derive more so from cultural and political factors than from purely
religious ones.
AD: You
note (p.166) of a similar problem in both Orthodoxy and Islam: often
"deliberately misleading information about their shared past." (This
is a problem also often denounced by the great Byzantine historian Robert
Taft.) Why would it be deliberate? What is to be gained by a less than
scrupulously truthful narration of the past?
AS: It is deliberate because as
human beings we so often choose to construct identity around our biases and
prejudices instead of the complicated web of connections in which we live in
the real world and the pain that is often associated with coming to terms with
the truth about ourselves, our communities, and our history. As Tariq Ramadan once said, we judge the
religious other’s truth by their practices, but ourselves by our principles and
not by our actions. This intellectual
double standard causes us to pass judgment unfairly upon those of other faith
traditions while forming a skewed view of ourselves, both our past and our
present. This is especially the case
for Orthodox Christians and Muslims today as they search for their identity in
a world that often seems hostile to them and their religion as it had been
expressed and lived by so many past generations.
Modernity itself has caused Orthodox
Christians and Muslims to turn against each other in societies where previously
they had lived in harmony. The reasons
for this are complex and layered, varying somewhat by local or regional
context. There is no denying, though,
that part of the problem is that some have tried to make Islam the scapegoat
for past and present problems of Eastern Christians. With the breaking up of
the Ottoman Empire, all too often this trend became part of the national
narratives created to support newly formed modern states in which the national
Orthodox Churches played a central role.
To make this point in my book, I quoted Tarek Mitri, former World
Council of Churches Programme Secretary for Christian-Muslim Dialogue, who did
a great job of explaining how this dynamic has worked in the modern period. He has argued that ancestral history is
fabricated rather than inherited and that the current tensions (and even
hatred, at certain times and places, between Eastern Christians and Muslims) are
“inculcated…more by modern discourse than by memory.” In an age where Eastern Christians and
Muslims have increasingly found themselves competing for the same scarce
resources, it can sometimes be easier to believe that things have always been
bad between them or that they somehow come from very different places historically. As Mitri put it, “If the past does not meet
the needs of the present, another one can always be invented.” In fact, with the advances of modern
technology and the power of media, this has become easier than ever. I think this is at the root of why books such
as those written by Bat Ye’or and Serge Trifkovic have gotten some
attention. They tell people what they
want to hear and match the biases and hatred toward Islam and Muslims that
Western civilization has been nurturing for a very long time, arguably since
the time of the Crusades. Unfortunately,
this malignancy has spread to the Christian East and unless it is addressed it
will only pull us further apart from our long-time Muslim neighbors (at least
in the central homelands of Orthodoxy), as well as from our own authentic
selves.
AD: You
deal with the work of Bat Ye'or (pp.192-96), who has attracted some controversy
and been rather strongly criticized by scholars such as Sidney Griffith. You
accuse her (and Serge Trifkovic) of using "methods that are intellectually
dishonest." Say more about this. I'm not sure I see what you mean by
"intellectually dishonest." I think there is ample room to criticize
her book--as I have myself done--but I also think (as Griffith said in his
review of her work) we have to recognize that she has, whether we like it or
not, forced the question of dhimmitude upon us when too many people, for
present felt political purposes, would prefer to ignore it. Thoughts?
I would encourage readers to
look at what I say specifically about these books (esp. Trifkovic’s) to see how
I reach the conclusion that they are intellectually dishonest. However, in general terms I find their works
dishonest because they tell only part of the story, do not give the full
context, and/or seem to proof-text with historical, literary, and scriptural
sources to support their starting point, which is a distorted, pre-determined
conclusion about Islam. The problem is,
as Hugh Goddard put it, they judge the ‘medieval world of Islam by modern
Western criteria’ without applying the same standard to their own medieval
ancestors. In terms of the treatment of
religious minorities, the historical evidence is clear that by comparison, when
properly contextualized, Islamicate civilization ranks among the highest of
all.
As for the question of “dhimmitude,” I find the argument that it has somehow been
ignored or covered up to be unconvincing.
Orthodox theologians and scholars who have written about Eastern
Christians under Islam have not in any way neglected the subject. In fact, I do not know of any general account
or scholarly article about the treatment of Orthodox Christians under Muslim
rule that does not reference the Islamic legal construct of the ahl al-dhimma, the Millet system, the
payment of jizya, and the practice of
devshirme. I discuss all of these in my book too. There were certainly negative aspects to
living under Muslim rule, but there were many positives as well, which include
receiving protection and having relative freedom to continue practicing one’s
religion without the fear of persecution.
I do not like Bat Ye’or’s the use of the term “dhimmitude” because it
implies, quite intentionally I am sure, that Christians were living in a state
of servitude akin to slavery. This
simply was not the case. In fact, there
are many examples of Eastern Christians holding positions of high prestige or
influence within one or another Islamic Empire/Dynasty. Moreover, the application of a special legal
category, and associated regulations, to a religious minority was not unique to
Islam. Actually, Muslim legal scholars got
the idea from the Persian Empire. Yet
why do we not associate this with Zoroastrianism? One can find examples of similar treatment of
religious minorities in the Byzantine Empire.
It is hard for a person of today to understand, because of our modern biases
on the relationship between religion and politics, but religion, citizenship,
ethnicity, and identity were closely related in pre-modern times. Too often, perhaps because of the pervasive
negative portrayal of Islam in Western culture, we wrongly associate something
that was true of all great civilizations at the time only with Islamicate
Civilization.
AD: You
end by noting (p.240) that "this study points to the need for further
research into relations between Muslims and other Eastern Christian
communities," including the Oriental Orthodox and the Eastern Catholic
Churches. Are you at work on such further research now, or have you shifted
focus onto other projects?
AS:
This is an important area for research and I do hope to contribute something to
it at some point. Right now, however, in
addition to some smaller tasks, I am focused on a project loosely titled Orthodox Christians, Muslims, and the
Environment. I am examining the
perspectives of key Muslim and Orthodox leaders in debates surrounding the
global environmental crisis and testing the hypothesis that their unique
experiences and responses to the postmodern age, as well as the possibilities
of their future common work in ecology, could make key contributions towards
efforts to save the planet. Other topics
of research on which I hope to publish over the next several years include
further regional studies on Eastern Christian-Muslim relations, mysticism in association with Muslim-Christian relations (as I discussed in an earlier
comment), and Eastern Christians as a bridge between Islam and Western
Christianity in the twenty-first century.